Snaredrum suggestions?

I am 99% sure the Ludwig LM400 series and variations are still seemless. They really are a very good value, but I would really only consider the "B" versions, which are seemless brass shells. But a die cast rim on top, and you've got a KILLER snare for a very reasonable price.

I have a Dunnett Stainless Steel 5.5x14 and it's fantastic. I also have a standard DW Collectors 5x14 if I need something a little warmer. I picked the DW over the Anton Fig snare becase the Anton snare really choked when cranked up. Between these two snares (Dunnett and DW), there isn't much I can't cover.

Danny

Ok, I can be wrong....sorry
Maybe it's just my 'i don't like' newer Ludwigs.

Think John Bonham and Carl Palmer.........both drummers played metal kits at one time in their career.
Carl Palmer's metal kit is on display at the Rock n Roll hall of fame.

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Originally posted by mkabal:
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think Carl Palmer's set was made of stainless steel. It was beautiful! I think there is a video of ELP playing Fanfare for the Common Man and Carl is playing those steel drums with Black Dots.

I'm curious, what do chrome over maple sound like? Not familiar with them as i've never played one... still, curious, however.

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Originally posted by matricks:
I'm curious, what do chrome over maple sound like?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The chrome plating would need to be on metal, so chances are that it would be chrome-plated steel wrapped around maple. I had a Slingerland set with that finish years ago and they sounded great (including the snare).

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 09, 2005 03:09 PM: Message edited by: drumming sort of person ]</font>

Didn't they call that finish Chrom-o-wood or something like that?

How 70s does THAT name sound? [img]eek.gif[/img]

Danny

Anybody else tried the Yamaha Sonny Emory Signature (Beech) snare? I saw Terri Lynne Carrington play one at a clinic and thought it had mad sensitivity at low volume, nice mids and a really gorgeous solid crack. I ended up getting it as a birthday gift a couple weeks ago--the actual one Terri played. [img]smile.gif[/img] Sounds different up close but I'm loving it. Also love my DW Craviotto maple 13".

I agree with the "shopping" notion--snares must be thoroughly heard and investigated before purchase. Nobody else hears quite like you do and may not be into the same sound you seek.

Saw Chris Dave with that unbelievable snare as well...though I don't have an extra $2500 sitting around. Cheers!

5/5*14 die cast maple snare is batter..you can use this kind snare drum every style music..

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Okay, guys. I did it. A 6.5X14 sensitone is on the way.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">T, did you get the brass or steel?

How about that new Yamaha Steve Gadd snare drum. Has anyone tried/heard the steel shelled version?

Have not really hit it hard, but tapped on it at NAMM.....looks great especially with the new wood hoops.

I've very recently managed to get myself the snare drum of my dreams.
For me it's the ultimate sounding, aand playing snare.

A Yamaha Dave Weckl 14x5.5" Aluminium snare...

http://www.bombthepast.net/tubthumped/pics/weckl1.jpg

Wow, this is an old thread! I did get a brass Sensitone, but I sold it with my old drumkit. It sounded great, but not quite low-pitched enough for me. I now use a Pearl 6 1/2 Masters Custom African Mahogany. It's disgusting. I'm forever searching, though, for that big, fat-ass meaty Steve-Smith-circa-Journey snare.

I think one of the main things to do in order to get that sound is just tune it low and avoid rimshots. Anyway, I love my snare, overall.

that and Smith used anywhere from a 6 1/2 to an 8 deep snare.

I LOVE the Smith snare sound circa Journey Infinity. I know the recording had a lot to do with it, but that fat, boxy pop is what I did. Moonie had a killer sounding snare IMO. I also love the remastered bang on Phil Ehart's snare from Carry On My Wayward Son.

...da da da da BOOM

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Originally posted by jonthibault:
I'm forever searching, though, for that big, fat-ass meaty Steve-Smith-circa-Journey snare.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He used a black dot back then too.

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Originally posted by PocketPlayer:
Moonie had a killer sounding snare IMO.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Those rim shots on "I Can See For Miles" are the best!

You can tell by my handle in here, that I'm a big fan of Steve Smith. Unfortunately, he did not play on Journey's Infinity album. That was Ansley Dunbar. Very fat sounding snare. I actually prefer the crack from a thinner snare.

Too bad SOTA is no longer in business. They were around for a short time in the 80's in the Chicago area. Talk about fat with KRACK!! I have a 5.5x14 in an African padauk wood. The shell was pieced together with 1"Lx1/8"Wx1/4"thick sections. The 1/4" shell has reinforcing dowels spaced 1" apart all the way around. The bearing edge is flawless! I added a Rhythm Tech snare carriage that made this drum extremely sensitive and very versatile. It has the widest dynamic range of any drum I've ever played. Watch the auction sites: you might find one floating around. There were only a couple hundred of these made and they are all of similar construction and made of several types of exotic woods. I understand the rosewood ones were just killers.

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Originally posted by SSmithite:
You can tell by my handle in here, that I'm a big fan of Steve Smith. Unfortunately, he did not play on Journey's Infinity album. That was Ansley Dunbar. Very fat sounding snare. I actually prefer the crack from a thinner snare.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, SS began his much-lauded era w Jrny with the Evolution album...I came to them via radio play of the release of the successful Departure album, which then also sent the DJs to playing much of Infinity AWA Evol...man did those 3 albums get the play when i was back in jr hi...stellar pop-vox-rock albums that were kick axe IMHO. Inf [AWA Dep] kicked-asp & still hold up no matter what a newer "punk" might say!! ;-p

Big SS fan here [Jrny AWA w VI, & also SS's work w StepsA]...he also kicked axe on MacAlpine's Edge of Insanity album ATT [rem, this is pre-Virg ;-p...it was still a kickin' album tho].
I played the snot out of it when the DEVOid/ Cars/ BeefItD2s/ Doo-ran/ WTFlocka Gullsheist "new wave" wusseez [img]tongue.gif[/img] would gather 'round ["Empire In the Sky, The Witch & the Priest," etc] - it, awa Yes, Kansas, Duke-awa pre-Duke Genesis, Brand X, Tull, Crimson, VMoore, Yngwie, Halen, Zep, Rush, ELP, MahavO/McLaugh, RTF, Al-D, Stan Clark, Ponty, Dregs, VI, & earlier Jrny was my retaliatory "tsunami" response to the deluge of corny, dopey, dippety-ditz, so-called "new wave" that was [poly-un-]saturating the airwaves ATT ["red-tide" was more like it!] ;-p... j/k, sort of....

I would've liked to've seen Randy Jackson w SS on tour w Jrny...now that would've been ineresting...a kickin cauc & kickin af-am boy...[& RJ prob would've slipped SS some fonK-grease]...;-) [img]cool.gif[/img]

...altho back to the immed topic at hand; I also actually prefer the crack from a thinner snare AW... a la StewC, NP, Weck's...but then everyone was using those because it was such a new, fresh, & cool sound [AOT all those yrs of those studio/ deep sn/ taped heads/ boxy sounds]; & then all of a sudden it wasn't "cool" anymore again for that very same reason [like everything else [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img] , in cycles...i guess EVERYTHING is retro/ cool now... ;-p ]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ July 14, 2005 04:21 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>

Took a stab at one of those Journey theme LP's...off by a drummer [img]eek.gif[/img]

Some of my fav classic rock snare sounds:

This is Smith
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When You're Alone (It Ain't Easy)
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Where Were You? off Departure
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Compared to
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Won't Get Fooled Again
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Barracuda
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Lastly,
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Carry On Wayward Son
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Forgot...Virg's snare ALWAYS sounds awesome! Especially this baby at a CAB Spud gig

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture012.jpg

Yeah, that's it, the Evol cover.

Nice close-up of Virg kit -

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Forgot...Virg's snare ALWAYS sounds awesome! Especially this baby at a CAB Spud gig

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, but some folks 'round 'nese parts hither think his toms often tend to sound like "el Cup de Culona" [or, ..."A," azz it were]... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[...Notice i wasn't remarking about the PLAYING upon the same said drumkit items]... [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]

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Yeah, but some folks 'round 'nese parts hither think his toms often tend to sound like "el Cup de Culona" [or, ..."A," azz it were].

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">YES...confusing really. After seeing Frank Briggs, there is no excuse for these top players to have dead sounding toms, or those that get squashed out by the other instruments.

My first thought would be to tune higher. Maybe it is habit of keeping your practice room or studio sound you're used to. Live, in a small venue, is a different matter.

His snare CRANKS however! Best ever I heard was opening gig for the Moonbabies tour at The Knitting Factory here in Hollyweird.

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opening gig for the Moonbabies tour at The Knitting Factory here

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THAT must've really been stoopit.
That live boot of PX-MBs in Chicago someone posted here on the net a while back was some stoopit good prog/fuso-rock AW.

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Ahhh, thanks for those Journey songs. It brings me back to the days when good music was popular, not lioke the crap that passes for music today (like Hip Hop, rap etc.) I also liked "Walks like a lady" from the Departure album. SS really showed his versatility in this bluesy song. Another good SS performance was on "I'm cryin'"

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